Bernie has a shot

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Reply #40 on: April 18, 2019, 01:33:50 AM
Life expectancy is most strongly correlated to lifestyle, not access to care. That is a more distant contributing factor.
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Reply #41 on: April 18, 2019, 01:34:35 AM
Ok... so when he comes up short in paying for all these pipe dreams with the taxes on the 10 million and above bracket where does he get the additional funds?  :popcorn:

Fair question.
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Reply #42 on: April 18, 2019, 01:54:49 AM
Some of Bernie's actual platform, not the platform you people who are afraid of democratic socialism believe in your fevered imaginations.


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Reply #43 on: April 18, 2019, 02:08:07 AM
He would have beaten TRUMP last time.  Not sure he can get there now though.  In any case he was my guy until the rigged Dem system stole it from him, but if the loser Dems assimilate him into their identity politics and SJW nonsense then I will stick with TRUMP. 
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Reply #44 on: April 18, 2019, 02:15:39 AM
Bernie sings to the ears from a moral perspective. No question there. And he's obviously smart enough to take a stab at building some kind of vision instead of simply hating trump. Good for him.

However, time and time again we've seen socialism fail and again I ask the question, when his piggy bank of 10 million and above taxpayers falls short in paying for all of his programs where does he get the money?

And additionally, what barriers will he be able to erect and enforce to keep a corporate exodus from becoming a reality should these corporations feel it is in their best interest to move operations to countries who are willing to embrace them?
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Reply #45 on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:42 AM
Bernie sings to the ears from a moral perspective. No question there. And he's obviously smart enough to take a stab at building some kind of vision instead of simply hating trump. Good for him.

However, time and time again we've seen socialism fail and again I ask the question, when his piggy bank of 10 million and above taxpayers falls short in paying for all of his programs where does he get the money?

And additionally, what barriers will he be able to erect and enforce to keep a corporate exodus from becoming a reality should these corporations feel it is in their best interest to move operations to countries who are willing to embrace them?

State mandated socialism and in its more extreme end (communism) is a fundamentally bankrupt concept where ethics are brushed aside and ultimately, morality.

If socialism were only a spiritual movement, like Buddhism, more people could get on board from all walks of life and wealth. It would be a plus for society...as long as free choice prevailed.

People who advocate for Socialism or Communism refuse to accept that their demands break the social contract...and without such, nothing survives...

I believe that we're all tasked to help where we can....but not at the cost of ourselves (unless that's what an individual chooses free and clear of any mandates)...
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Reply #46 on: April 18, 2019, 03:05:11 PM
How many times are you guys going to play the same old "socialism is a failure" card? 

First of all, Bernie is not a straight up socialist.  You seem to be completely incapable of understanding that socialism and capitalism can -- and DO -- co-exist.  We have had socialist programs in our country since long before your parents were born.

The failures we are seeing now often stem from the elimination of socialist programs that are beneficial to everyone and the free reign of greed.  Greed has to be curbed, because it causes people to suffer and die for no good reason.  This country is no longer great when almost half the people are suffering from low pay and all the associated ills.
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Reply #47 on: April 18, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
How many times are you guys going to play the same old "socialism is a failure" card? 

First of all, Bernie is not a straight up socialist.  You seem to be completely incapable of understanding that socialism and capitalism can -- and DO -- co-exist.  We have had socialist programs in our country since long before your parents were born.

The failures we are seeing now often stem from the elimination of socialist programs that are beneficial to everyone and the free reign of greed.  Greed has to be curbed, because it causes people to suffer and die for no good reason.  This country is no longer great when almost half the people are suffering from low pay and all the associated ills.

A lot of his programs would be great, but we need the WALL first. 
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Reply #48 on: April 18, 2019, 03:21:53 PM
A lot of his programs would be great, but we need the WALL first.

I can't believe you think Trump actually cares about the wall.  He is just pandering to the tools who believe his BS.

CONs are as guilty as libs of wanting cheap labor wherever they can find it.
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Reply #49 on: April 18, 2019, 03:30:22 PM
A, Bernie is not a communist, you fucking ignoramuses. 
B, Socialism has been very successful in many countries, and in many of our own domestic programs
C, Capitalism will not be killed if Bernie becomes POTUS, you total fucking nitwits, and
D, Bernie has worked in DC long enough to understand how the government works, how economics work, and how government and capitalism can co-exist, while Trumps knows nothing about anything except his own narcissistic desires. 

Oh, and,
E, Biden can't beat Trump.
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Reply #50 on: April 18, 2019, 03:51:05 PM
Will Bernie even be alive in 2020 let alone win? You idiots and your pipe dreams crack me the fuck up. It won't happen in a million years. :biglaugha:



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Reply #51 on: April 18, 2019, 04:01:51 PM
Will Bernie even be alive in 2020 let alone win? You idiots and your pipe dreams crack me the fuck up. It won't happen in a million years. :biglaugha:



I imagine you think fatso Trump is immortal.
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Reply #52 on: April 18, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
WASHINGTON – Sen. Bernie Sanders finished ahead of Joe Biden in the first major national poll of the year that did not find the former vice president leading the pack of potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidates.

When asked whom they would support from a list of 20 candidates – including "someone else" –  29% named Sanders, and 24% named Biden, [and everyone else came in far behind.

But mark my words, if Bernie doesn't get 50%+ and win the primary in the first count, the DNC will do a 2nd count using superdelegates, and Biden will be anointed the candidate.  He will lose to Trump.]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/16/election-2020-bernie-sanders-leads-joe-biden-national-poll/3482387002/
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Reply #53 on: April 18, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
What happened to Pete ButtePlug?

Progs not feeling like taking it in the ass is a good platform to run on?


There's a shocker
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Reply #54 on: April 18, 2019, 04:42:51 PM
What happened to Pete ButtePlug?

Progs not feeling like taking it in the ass is a good platform to run on?


There's a shocker

He's not even at 20%.  Not even at 10%, I don't think.  No one is other than Bernie and Biden.

BTW, that's a dumbass comment, even for you.
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Reply #55 on: April 18, 2019, 04:45:24 PM
A, Bernie is not a communist, you fucking ignoramuses. 
B, Socialism has been very successful in many countries, and in many of our own domestic programs
C, Capitalism will not be killed if Bernie becomes POTUS, you total fucking nitwits, and
D, Bernie has worked in DC long enough to understand how the government works, how economics work, and how government and capitalism can co-exist, while Trumps knows nothing about anything except his own narcissistic desires. 

Oh, and,
E, Biden can't beat Trump.

Piss off... Rancid lives in a socialist country... Scoundrel lives in a socialist country, I LIVE IN a socialist country, yet we don't know how good we have which amounts to shit?

Seriously, you're stupid. Not insult wise stupid but really really stupid....the actual life stupidity.

...another dumb American aspiring WOKE socialist who would struggle to wipe their own arse in a toilet paper mill landslide, then demand others pay for it

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Reply #56 on: April 18, 2019, 04:50:40 PM
WOKE socialist who would struggle to wipe their own arse in a toilet paper mill landslide, then demand others pay for it

That comment is so loaded with ignorance, it's tragic.  You come across as someone who comes from a country where there is no public education, so you got home schooled by illiterate parents.
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Reply #57 on: April 18, 2019, 04:52:57 PM
That comment is so loaded with ignorance, it's tragic.  You come across as someone who comes from a country where there is no public education, so you got home schooled by illiterate parents.

I was mostly edumocated in America...

...before I knew any better.

Where were you edumocated?
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Reply #58 on: April 18, 2019, 05:08:02 PM
I was mostly edumocated in America...

...before I knew any better.

Where were you edumocated?

So, either you think your education was inferior, and you admit you're stupid as fuck, or your education was good, so socialism works.
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Reply #59 on: April 18, 2019, 05:12:11 PM
So, either you think your education was inferior, and you admit you're stupid as fuck, or your education was good, so socialism works.

 :crampe:

America isn't quite the socialist shithole you pine for yet and it was definitely nowhere near today when Reagan was in da house...
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