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Offline lokmar

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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 01:29:09 PM »
What's that got to do with your use of it? Oh yeah, nothing.

My mother is elderly and retired for years now. Never once has she had a problem with accessing care or the quality of the care.

Good for your mother but many people do have trouble with it. Prescriptions are a pain in the ass w/part D for many people. My mom has to go to the walmart to get hers. Fuk if that aint like risking life and limb! Wait times to get procedures done are much longer than the average too.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 01:39:28 PM »
Kaiser permanente, people. Never have any probs with them
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 02:25:49 PM »
My greedy capitalistic paycheck stub has a line item for the medicare I will someday use.

So your idea would be to retire and then pay dor it?

See how that doesn't work.

Healthcare is paid  for in some way, has to be.

The UK has by far the best healthcare system in the world which is paid for by ouir National Insurance scheme.

Cuba's is apparently very good too.

Paid for presumably by rich right wing Americans who are vehemently opposed to any form of drug smuggling.

Wankers.  :popcorn:
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 02:42:17 PM »
In case nobody noticed Joe wasn't talking about retired people.

Nice hijack there Scoundrel.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2019, 02:54:47 PM »

In case nobody noticed Joe wasn't talking about retired people.

A discussion about health care or any government handouts is irrelevant without including aging people.

Life expectancy is such that half of our lives may be either as children or OAP's. You can't really talk about benefits without taking that into consideration or any conclusions you draw will be incorrect.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 04:28:15 PM »
So your idea would be to retire and then pay dor it?

See how that doesn't work.

Healthcare is paid  for in some way, has to be.

The UK has by far the best healthcare system in the world which is paid for by ouir National Insurance scheme.

Cuba's is apparently very good too.

Paid for presumably by rich right wing Americans who are vehemently opposed to any form of drug smuggling.

Wankers.  :popcorn:

You MIGHT have gotten by with trying to sell off that shit storm fire dumpster known as NHS but once you started in about Cuba, you lost all cred, which was only about 10% anyway... Have you even talked to a Cuban who left that shit hole country? The Cubans I know would just as soon see you pistol whipped before listening to your tripe. Their fucking education and health care sux ass!

You're just another stupid lib who dont know WFT its talking about.

BTW, healthcare used to be part of a retirement package before the goobermint fucked it all up.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 01:24:03 AM »
Allow me to educate you folks. Medicare is PAID FOR BY US! It aint a typical socialist handout anymore than SSI. My greedy capitalistic paycheck stub has a line item for the medicare I will someday use. Yea, thats right, I'm forced to make payments for shit I aint even using yet.

Everything in the US budget is paid by us, stupidfuck.  The government collects taxes.  Who pays taxes? 

WE DO. 
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2019, 08:32:41 AM »
Kaiser permanente, people. Never have any probs with them

Not to jack the thread, but in SFO they've killed a few of my friends who were paying SERIOUS dough for their services.  Kaiser may be okay where you are, but not everywhere.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2019, 08:35:48 AM »
You MIGHT have gotten by with trying to sell off that shit storm fire dumpster known as NHS but once you started in about Cuba, you lost all cred, which was only about 10% anyway... Have you even talked to a Cuban who left that shit hole country? The Cubans I know would just as soon see you pistol whipped before listening to your tripe. Their fucking education and health care sux ass!

You're just another stupid lib who dont know WFT its talking about.


BTW, healthcare used to be part of a retirement package before the goobermint fucked it all up.


LOKMAR PLEASE NOTE:  This is a serious discussion thread for adults, not a flame match.  Last warning.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2019, 09:46:54 AM »
You'll have Medicare that's available to all seniors, and you'll use it, just like every conservative on the right does.

Hypocrites.

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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2019, 07:37:43 PM »
Dear deluded LOKMAR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

It's a long read so you may need an Adderal.

Easiest bit of info is life expectancy which is greater than the US.

Explain that cumstain.

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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2019, 08:24:47 PM »
Dear deluded LOKMAR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

It's a long read so you may need an Adderal.

Easiest bit of info is life expectancy which is greater than the US.

Explain that cumstain.

Oh no! Sorry the hysterical cleaning lady's gonna move your post for that insult. This is SERIOUS discussion, not flaming!

From YOUR link!

"Experts say that official statistics by the Castro regime should be treated skeptically."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking_in_Cuba

I would point out that with 45% of Cubans smoking and Cuba being such a poor country, the likelihood of their healthcare not being overtaxed is impossible.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2019, 10:10:48 AM »
I would point out that with 45% of Cubans smoking and Cuba being such a poor country, the likelihood of their healthcare not being overtaxed is impossible.

The discussion  wasn't about whether a system was overtaxed merely what it offered.

I aslso stated that 'Apparently' the Cuban system was reasonable not that I'd done much research.

First world government without a workable social healthcare system should be ashamed.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2019, 04:17:24 PM »


First world government without a workable social healthcare system should be ashamed.

Moron Americans can't differentiate between top notch health care provided by clinicians and a healthcare SYSTEM.  Our healthcare system is abysmal.   

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2019, 01:32:11 PM »
I guess it depends what kind of society people want.

There seems to be hardly any money left over to play with if you live in Quebec.

Life is expensive. I imagine many  people living in Montreal are broke.

But their crime rate is lower than the rest of Canada too.

Quebec City, a City of about 600,000 went a couple of yesrs with 0 murders.

Prince Edward Island, a province the size of Rhode Island also had 0 murders a couple of years too.

I dunno. Maybe those people love each other more than in the rest of the Country
As usual, Joe, you're talking out of your ass.

I've lived most of my life in Montreal and the ONLY reason to want to leave the city (and the province of Québec) is the long, harsh winter.

Yes, Quebeckers are the most highly taxed population in North America, but this is a choice we make to get the services we both need and want. Affordable health care, subsidized daycare, and an adequate social safety net.

But Montrealers aren't broke. Far from it. In fact, the city is on the world map for its fashion industry, its aeronautics industry, its interactive entertainment industry, its film industry, its festivals, and its tourism industry. Montreal has a world-class and affordable public transit system, with a highly efficient and cutting edge subway network servicing all areas of the city. It has mile upon mile of bike paths (featuring North America's first user-friendly and cost-effective "free" bicycle pick-up service to encourage active transportation). Also, the cost of living there is much cheaper than out here, on the West Coast. The only drawback (and it's a doozy) is the now-crumbling road and highway infrastructure, currently being repaired and revamped.

Montreal is the first city in North America to have formulated its own citizen's Charter of Rights and Responsibilities, the first to establish a city-wide network of free WiFi access nodes, and the first to webcast its City Council meetings.

Yes, the city bills itself as the world's second largest French-speaking metropolis (after Paris) but its language demographics say something different: 50% of its residents are French-speaking, 25% English-speaking, and 25% are Allophones (whose usual language is neither French nor English). And, while the city is nested firmly in its surrounding French-Canadian (or, more properly, Québécois) culture, people from all over the world live and work and play in Montreal.

Finally, the big draw (and the reason so many Americans enjoy spending time there) is the fact that the city is a marvelous hybrid of North American urbanity and Old World European charm.

Can you tell I miss it?  8)
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2019, 02:45:59 PM »
Extremists appear to be dictating the social agenda in the United States lately
Extremists dictate the dialog, but in DC, legislation is pretty much as it has been for the last 40 years.  All for the corporations, war mongers, and banksters, nothing for working Americans.

I'd rather be in Quebec.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2019, 03:17:35 PM »

I'd rather be in Quebec.


Can I give you a ride to the airport?
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2019, 05:44:51 PM »
Can I give you a ride to the airport?

Dude, that may not be a safe offer.

Just sayin.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2019, 11:47:30 PM »
Not to jack the thread, but in SFO they've killed a few of my friends who were paying SERIOUS dough for their services.  Kaiser may be okay where you are, but not everywhere.

Hate to break it to you, but doctors everywhere kill people.  Hospitals in general kill people.  It's not that uncommon.
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Re: This seems like an ‘American forum ‘
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2019, 01:01:38 AM »
Hate to break it to you, but doctors everywhere kill people.  Hospitals in general kill people.  It's not that uncommon.
Most of it due to malpractice. The Docs don't want you dead but they don't want you well either. If you die they lose a customer.
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