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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2019, 08:17:22 PM »
That's utter horseshit.  I have a blonde, blue-eyed friend whose father was Native American.  My friend received reparations from the gov.  Don't know much about genetics.  SMH
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2019, 10:49:24 PM »
Funny how the actual Native American women in Con
in Congress look like this:

What a bunch of phonies!  I mean they're not 1/1024 Native like Warren.



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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2019, 01:30:41 AM »
There is a family story that has been handed down for several generations now, and repeated by EVERYONE in our family, that we are direct descendants of a certain famous academic guy.  I have always believed it, my mother believed it, my grandfather believed it.  I have told many people this guy is my ancestor, because I had no reason to doubt this story.

Only in the last couple of months while doing a family tree on ancestry.com have I come to realize this may not be true.

When Warren believed the family story and used it in applications, there was no ancestry.com.  Why wouldn't she believe what she was told, just like I did?  This should not be a problem.  Only hateful, partisan hacks are making it one.

It seems like she was going back and forth there for a while.  It is one thing to have your family lore or whatever and another to use what you know is a special category to arrogate privileged status.  She was white when being white was advantageous and NA when that was advantageous, and now she seems to have gone back because once again America has shifted on this issue and now apparently "cultural appropriation" is the sin du jour. 

But aside from her reprehensibility, it is her clumsiness that ensures she will never be able to beat TRUMP.  Most campaigns can't survive even one apology, much less because with a 3 days apology tour.  The DNA test as well was quite idiotic - what did she think it would prove and to whom?  These are actions that can only lose supporters; they will never convince anyone who was already against her.

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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2019, 10:07:57 AM »
When Warren believed the family story and used it in applications, there was no ancestry.com.  Why wouldn't she believe what she was told, just like I did?  This should not be a problem.  Only hateful, partisan hacks are making it one.

No shit, and REC. 

I, too, was gullible enough to believe the family fiction of my grandfather, which for all I know HE also believed.  But Ancestry gave me a dose of reality.  My surname, of which I'm historically quite proud, comes to me through a great-great grandMOTHER whose story is quite unsavory by church standards. 

Kind of liberating, actually, as it gives me a genetic basis for some of my own unsavory personal history.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2019, 11:40:27 AM »


Ya we know,...she's just kidding

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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2019, 01:02:09 PM »
No shit, and REC. 

I, too, was gullible enough to believe the family fiction of my grandfather, which for all I know HE also believed.  But Ancestry gave me a dose of reality.  My surname, of which I'm historically quite proud, comes to me through a great-great grandMOTHER whose story is quite unsavory by church standards. 

Kind of liberating, actually, as it gives me a genetic basis for some of my own unsavory personal history.

Easy enough for Warren to have looked in the mirror to know she wasn't Native American. One ancestor, in the past, doesn't define an entire ethnicity and we all know that.

On average Black Americans have about 25% Eudlpean dna. Do they identify as white?
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2019, 02:44:21 PM »
Easy enough for Warren to have looked in the mirror to know she wasn't Native American. One ancestor, in the past, doesn't define an entire ethnicity and we all know that.

On average Black Americans have about 25% Eudlpean dna. Do they identify as white?

When I said my great-great-grandmother was "unsavory," I wasn't speaking of her ethnicity but rather of her life circumstances.  This thread is not just about ethnicity, and the point I responded to raised the question of people being misinformed about their ethnicity by family lore at a time when DNA testing wasn't on the table.

As to your point about Warren and her mirror, I have known several people in my generation with native or Filipino/Pacific Island bloodlines in the 25% to 50% range who could have easily passed as white, based on appearance.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2019, 04:20:48 PM »
When I said my great-great-grandmother was "unsavory," I wasn't speaking of her ethnicity but rather of her life circumstances.  This thread is not just about ethnicity, and the point I responded to raised the question of people being misinformed about their ethnicity by family lore at a time when DNA testing wasn't on the table.

As to your point about Warren and her mirror, I have known several people in my generation with native or Filipino/Pacific Island bloodlines in the 25% to 50% range who could have easily passed as white, based on appearance.

I don't think it's that common, though also not rare to look white with that much "ethnic" dna.

But, this dumbass turns out to have 1/1024 Native, almost none or negligible.  I have no idea where she could have bought a clue, but she and her family were wrong about being American Indian.

I try to be empathetic to Natives, genocide, land stolen, thrown onto reservations as a lasting legacy and now their very own identities being stolen as well.

That's fucked up. And it matters, American Indian lives and cultures matter. At least a little respect is long overdue.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2019, 09:32:56 PM »
When I said my great-great-grandmother was "unsavory," I wasn't speaking of her ethnicity but rather of her life circumstances.  This thread is not just about ethnicity, and the point I responded to raised the question of people being misinformed about their ethnicity by family lore at a time when DNA testing wasn't on the table.

As to your point about Warren and her mirror, I have known several people in my generation with native or Filipino/Pacific Island bloodlines in the 25% to 50% range who could have easily passed as white, based on appearance.

If you have a family of mixed race kids and most of them are clearly minorities but one could pass for white (like my friend.  she was the palest person in her family), then I guess the one who can pass has to just STFU and classify him/herself as white.  It would be disrespectful to do otherwise.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2019, 09:50:50 PM »
I mean, how dare this woman pass herself off as Native?  She's too white.



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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2019, 09:53:48 PM »
Totally looks like Elizabeth Warren.  They could be twins!

Sorry, but she looks Native to me.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2019, 10:02:37 PM »
Totally looks like Elizabeth Warren.  They could be twins!

Sorry, but she looks Native to me.
She almost looks like my mommy ;)
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2019, 10:06:29 PM »
It seems like she was going back and forth there for a while.  It is one thing to have your family lore or whatever and another to use what you know is a special category to arrogate privileged status.  She was white when being white was advantageous and NA when that was advantageous, and now she seems to have gone back because once again America has shifted on this issue and now apparently "cultural appropriation" is the sin du jour. 

But aside from her reprehensibility, it is her clumsiness that ensures she will never be able to beat TRUMP.  Most campaigns can't survive even one apology, much less because with a 3 days apology tour.  The DNA test as well was quite idiotic - what did she think it would prove and to whom?  These are actions that can only lose supporters; they will never convince anyone who was already against her.

Her reprehensibility?  Trump paid hush money to a porn star, sexualized his daughter repeatedly, bragged about grabbing women's pussies, cheated the students at his "university," cheated employees, cheated contractors, bankrupted multiple companies, had racist exclusions in his property dealings, hired undocumented workers, is clearly a racist, doesn't pay taxes on his earnings, married an undocumented alien yet is vilifying others who are doing what the "First Lady" did, and has gold-plated shit in his apartment.  But Warren is reprehensible because she did something stupid and disrespectful 30 years ago?

If we don't have a strong candidate, Trump is going to win in 2020.  That will be on the so-called liberals who are raking Warren over the coals for this bullshit.
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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2019, 10:09:00 PM »
She almost looks like my mommy ;)

This woman is half Caucasian American and half Oaxacan Indian.   

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Re: Pocahontas offers the peace pipe folks
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2019, 10:10:31 PM »
She almost looks like my mommy ;)

I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
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