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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2018, 01:15:49 AM »
Here Lok.  Read these. Is this something you want to support and allow? Or would you rather stand on Christ and work in opposition to the culture of death with men and women of God? “They [the women] are never allowed to look at the ultrasound because we knew that if they so much as heard the heart beat, they wouldn’t want to have an abortion.”
– Dr. Randall, former abortionist
 ‘Pro-Choice 1990: Skeletons in the Closet” by David Kuperlain and Mark Masters in Oct. “New Dimensions” magazine.

“Even now I feel a little peculiar about it, because as a physician I was trained to conserve life, and here I am destroying it.”
– Dr. Benjamin Kalish, abortionist

“You have to become a bit schizophrenic. In one room, you encourage the patient that the slight irregularity in the fetal heart is not important, that she is going to have a fine, healthy baby. Then, in the next room you assure another woman, on whom you just did a saline abortion, that it is a good thing that the heartbeat is already irregular… she has nothing to worry about, she will NOT have a live baby… All of a sudden one noticed that at the time of the saline infusion there was a lot of activity in the uterus. That’s not fluid currents. That’s obviously the fetus being distressed by swallowing the concentrated salt solution and kicking violently and that’s to all intents and purposes, the death trauma… somebody has to do it, and unfortunately we are the executioners in this instance[.]”
– Dr. John Szenes, abortionist
Via EWTN.com: Magda Denes. “Performing Abortions.” Commentary Magazine, October 1976, pages 33 to 37. A truly frightening and profoundly sickening article by a doctor who observes and describes in graphic detail a number of saline abortions and their results. She acknowledges that abortion is killing, but a type of “necessary” killing. Also see the “Letters” sections in the December 1976 and February 1977 issues of Commentary Magazine.

“Telling those women their fetuses feel pain is heaping torment upon torment. These women have real pain. They did not come to this decision easily. Creating another barrier for them to get the medical care they need is really unfair.”
– Abortionist Dave Turok

You are presenting me something I already agree with you about. There is nothing on the subject for me to argue against.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2018, 01:17:02 AM »
Its very basic and black and white in nature. I believe thats what will make it more and more attractive in the future.

Exactly.  But I think that Christianity's sophistication is in part what has allowed the left to subvert it so easily.  It needs a strong institutional church to keep the mob in line.  Islam somehow has been able to dispense with that. 
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2018, 01:19:42 AM »
You are presenting me something I already agree with you about. There is nothing on the subject for me to argue against.
  here is a first trimester abortion viewed via ultrasound.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2018, 01:20:17 AM »
Exactly.  But I think that Christianity's sophistication is in part what has allowed the left to subvert it so easily.  It needs a strong institutional church to keep the mob in line.  Islam somehow has been able to dispense with that.

Yea, cause its practitioners havent been castrated by thew head imam declaring capital punishment evil. Thats a big reason for Christianity becoming morally bankrupt!
 
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2018, 01:23:22 AM »
Its extremely clear from the letters from the Apostles AND Christ Himself that toleration of those who were against Gods Word were to be tossed out of the church. I could cite examples throughout the NT.
Lok we dont know if the Lord was changing him. Yes, if a professed Christian, member of the church is staying in sin that is how its handled but lost sinners should not be prevented from hearing the message. You know there are former abortionists who also now are "antis"? Christian's now even? Look at Norma Mcorvey(Roe of Roe vs Wade). She fought against abortion until the day she died.
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2018, 01:34:29 AM »
 Here Lok, read this. Mostly the first part about human development at the embryonic stage(first trimester ends at 13 weeks)
 https://www.justfacts.com/abortion.asp
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2018, 01:39:27 AM »
Lok we dont know if the Lord was changing him. Yes, if a professed Christian, member of the church is staying in sin that is how its handled but lost sinners should not be prevented from hearing the message. You know there are former abortionists who also now are "antis"? Christian's now even? Look at Norma Mcorvey(Roe of Roe vs Wade). She fought against abortion until the day she died.

Dont care. Jesus and the Apostles are clear. These people are NOT to be in the church. I know of a fag that was tolerated in my church. Sure, everyone thought he could be saved. He preyed on a kid. One of the more moral people I've known for 35 years nearly beat the shit outta the fag and threw him out. Good for him! Maybe if the guy would have let the fag lead 5 more kids down fag road, the fag could have been converted. You're just plain wrong on this.  I'm capable of admitting when I'm scripturally wrong. This aint one of those times.
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2018, 01:39:59 AM »
Here Lok, read this. Mostly the first part about human development at the embryonic stage(first trimester ends at 13 weeks)
 https://www.justfacts.com/abortion.asp

You aint telling me anything I dont agree with.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2018, 01:46:14 AM »
Dont care. Jesus and the Apostles are clear. These people are NOT to be in the church. I know of a fag that was tolerated in my church. Sure, everyone thought he could be saved. He preyed on a kid. One of the more moral people I've known for 35 years nearly beat the shit outta the fag and threw him out. Good for him! Maybe if the guy would have let the fag lead 5 more kids down fag road, the fag could have been converted. You're just plain wrong on this.  I'm capable of admitting when I'm scripturally wrong. This aint one of those times.
  So should we kick every non Christian sinner out of the church? You are referring to members of the church who are blatantly and knowingly sinning and refusing to respond to calls for repentance.  Which yes, I agree with that.. but we are not told to turn away the lost, we are told to make disciples of them. I'm not advocating for support of sin. I'm saying you dont know if that man was there because the Lord was drawing him. Christ died for sinners while they were still in thier sin, the great commission doesn't tell us to preach ONLY to the saved. That man could have shown up that day because he was turning to Christ and repenting of of his deeds. We dont know.  Also there have been plenty of straight men, some "pastors" even, who have sexually assaulted children and teens in churches. That's not exclusive to homosexuals. Anyone doing that needs to be brought to justice- no sins should be supported by the body of Christ. That's why I'm on you with this first trimester abortion thing.
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2018, 01:48:15 AM »
You aint telling me anything I dont agree with.
  I'm showing you what you are compromising with. The brutal destruction of a living, defenseless image bearer of God.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2018, 08:43:28 AM »
  So should we kick every non Christian sinner out of the church? You are referring to members of the church who are blatantly and knowingly sinning and refusing to respond to calls for repentance.  Which yes, I agree with that.. but we are not told to turn away the lost, we are told to make disciples of them. I'm not advocating for support of sin. I'm saying you dont know if that man was there because the Lord was drawing him. Christ died for sinners while they were still in thier sin, the great commission doesn't tell us to preach ONLY to the saved. That man could have shown up that day because he was turning to Christ and repenting of of his deeds. We dont know.  Also there have been plenty of straight men, some "pastors" even, who have sexually assaulted children and teens in churches. That's not exclusive to homosexuals. Anyone doing that needs to be brought to justice- no sins should be supported by the body of Christ. That's why I'm on you with this first trimester abortion thing.

We should absolutely throw every person out of the church who leads their lives in the manner described By Christ and the Apostles in the New Testament when they COMMANDED  the church elders to throw these people out. EVERY ONE!
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2018, 09:36:11 AM »
We should absolutely throw every person out of the church who leads their lives in the manner described By Christ and the Apostles in the New Testament when they COMMANDED  the church elders to throw these people out. EVERY ONE!
You are not listening. Yes Lok that applies to believers who are members of the church.  That does not apply to visitors who are not members who are seeking Christ and need to be sitting under the gospel. You hear what I'm saying?  Jesus said "Come to Me all ye who are weary and heavy laden and I shall give you rest".  We should never prevent anyone from coming to Christ.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2018, 10:23:04 AM »
You are not listening. Yes Lok that applies to believers who are members of the church.  That does not apply to visitors who are not members who are seeking Christ and need to be sitting under the gospel. You hear what I'm saying?  Jesus said "Come to Me all ye who are weary and heavy laden and I shall give you rest".  We should never prevent anyone from coming to Christ.

There's the rub. You let em in and then start moving the goal post for "how do we know if they wont be saved tomorrow". I'm telling you, allowing an active faggit who isnt ready to RIGHT NOW reject their evil is no different than allowing a mafia hitman who just got off another days work of whacking people or an abortion doctor who sucked out a fetus that morning. Those scumbags can and should be mentored OUTSIDE the church and ONLY when they are ready to walk away from that life, do you let em in. And the instant you hear of that person shacked up with another dude, murdering another person, or aborting more kids, you cut the bastards off and toss em in the trash!
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2018, 11:09:03 AM »
The one thing i don't like is the huge increase of gay characters in TV shows and movies that really serve only one purpose, to yell and scream "I'm gay, look at me" 

95% of the time them being gay has no plot point, they are just there to make some political point or social justice warrior statement

case in point the new star trek movie had a scene where Sulu is on shore leave and he is greeted by his "husband" they make kissy face and walk off. Cue the cheers about inclusion blah blah blah.

 It is so staged it comes off as pathetic and phony.

even commercials have 2 gals or guys renting fucking cars together and other such shit implying they are married or dating. It does nothing to dispel the thought that Hollywood is just a liberal bull horn spewing out whatever flavor of the day cause needs more attention

Transgender characters and shows popping up all over..same thing. I thought i was a wolf at age 10 but my parents would not let me get a tail implant and take wolf hormones and that was smart because around 1 month later I no longer thought i was a wolf and would have regretted making the change

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6351711/Hemel-Hempstead-transgender-man-60-regrets-gender-reassignment-surgery-11-years-on.html

 you got all these kids thinking its cool to switch genders and take all these hormones then 10 years down the line there livers are shot from all the drugs and they regret it

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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2018, 11:26:45 AM »
There's the rub. You let em in and then start moving the goal post for "how do we know if they wont be saved tomorrow". I'm telling you, allowing an active faggit who isnt ready to RIGHT NOW reject their evil is no different than allowing a mafia hitman who just got off another days work of whacking people or an abortion doctor who sucked out a fetus that morning. Those scumbags can and should be mentored OUTSIDE the church and ONLY when they are ready to walk away from that life, do you let em in. And the instant you hear of that person shacked up with another dude, murdering another person, or aborting more kids, you cut the bastards off and toss em in the trash!
  Lok they shouldn't be members of the church but it's in opposition of Christ to prevent the lost from going to Him, that means as the body of Christ we must welcome anyone who desires to hear the message. Making them members is another thing entirely. You have to confess faith in Christ and be baptized. We are told to minister to the lost and love our neighbor as ourselves.  Keep in mind the church isn't a building, the church is the body of Christ, the redeemed in Christ.  You have to reborn to be part of it.  It's not the building. Kicking lost sinners out of a building where the gospel is preached is working against the kingdom of Christ. And also in the eyes of God ALL sin is detestable. Not just some sins.  You realize Christ instructed us to spread the gospel and make disciples, to aid the needy, to even visit prisons?  The apostle Paul was slaughtering the early church. Should they have booted him?  If you have unregenerate sinners who are reprobate yes they need to be cut off.  But we cant just turn someone away at the door because they are sinners.  Again we do not know why this man was in church, you dont know if he went there in repentance. You dont know if he was reaching out to Christ.  Do you know how many former abortionists left that and now advocate against abortion?  God is a God of grace and mercy, and we should be VERY glad He is because not a single one of us meet His holy standard.  If you belong to Him it's because He had mercy on you. And He commands us to show that mercy and grace to others.  Do you watch porn, Lok? If so you are committing adultry and should be cast out by your own standards. Compromising with the world and condoning slaughter at the first trimester is a sin.  Again I'm not condoning unrepentant sin at all.  Unchecked sin the body of Christ is a problem, however we need to be harder on ourselves than we are on the world. 
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2018, 11:44:54 AM »
36 Then one of the Pharisees asked Him to eat with him. And He went to the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to eat. 37 And behold, a woman in the city who was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at the table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of fragrant oil, 38 and stood at His feet behind Him weeping; and she began to wash His feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head; and she kissed His feet and anointed them with the fragrant oil. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he spoke to himself, saying, “This Man, if He were a prophet, would know who and what manner of woman this is who is touching Him, for she is a sinner.”

40 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.”

So he said, “Teacher, say it.”

41 “There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both. Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?”

43 Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.”

And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.” 44 Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. 45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. 47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”

48 Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

50 Then He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”  Luke 7.  Who are you in this scene? The pharisee or the skank?
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2018, 01:01:06 PM »
+1 for the Spurgeon reference.  Still maybe the prince of preachers.
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2018, 03:53:05 PM »


in case some people don't know, Jesus was Jewish and spoke Aramaic.

He did not preach a prosperity gospel where you just send "faith" offerings to con men like Kenneth Copeland Ministries so Ken can buy his 3rd private jet.

That prosperity gospel heresy is the worst thing since the Inquisition.
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Re: Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2018, 04:09:25 PM »
  Lok they shouldn't be members of the church but it's in opposition of Christ to prevent the lost from going to Him, that means as the body of Christ we must welcome anyone who desires to hear the message. Making them members is another thing entirely. You have to confess faith in Christ and be baptized. We are told to minister to the lost and love our neighbor as ourselves.  Keep in mind the church isn't a building, the church is the body of Christ, the redeemed in Christ.  You have to reborn to be part of it.  It's not the building. Kicking lost sinners out of a building where the gospel is preached is working against the kingdom of Christ. And also in the eyes of God ALL sin is detestable. Not just some sins.  You realize Christ instructed us to spread the gospel and make disciples, to aid the needy, to even visit prisons?  The apostle Paul was slaughtering the early church. Should they have booted him?  If you have unregenerate sinners who are reprobate yes they need to be cut off.  But we cant just turn someone away at the door because they are sinners.  Again we do not know why this man was in church, you dont know if he went there in repentance. You dont know if he was reaching out to Christ.  Do you know how many former abortionists left that and now advocate against abortion?  God is a God of grace and mercy, and we should be VERY glad He is because not a single one of us meet His holy standard.  If you belong to Him it's because He had mercy on you. And He commands us to show that mercy and grace to others.  Do you watch porn, Lok? If so you are committing adultry and should be cast out by your own standards. Compromising with the world and condoning slaughter at the first trimester is a sin.  Again I'm not condoning unrepentant sin at all.  Unchecked sin the body of Christ is a problem, however we need to be harder on ourselves than we are on the world. 

Nope. You read the letters to the churches again for yourself. Its simple and very clear. They are not to be brought in and if they are tolerated inside the church, Christ Himself will cut em off. BTW, if your preacher raises kids that are fuck ups, you need to toss his ass out of the leadership position too.
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Re: MAN CRUSH - Freddy Mercury
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2018, 04:12:15 PM »
36 Then one of the Pharisees asked Him to eat with him. And He went to the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to eat. 37 And behold, a woman in the city who was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at the table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of fragrant oil, 38 and stood at His feet behind Him weeping; and she began to wash His feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head; and she kissed His feet and anointed them with the fragrant oil. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he spoke to himself, saying, “This Man, if He were a prophet, would know who and what manner of woman this is who is touching Him, for she is a sinner.”

40 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.”

So he said, “Teacher, say it.”

41 “There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both. Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?”

43 Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.”

And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.” 44 Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. 45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. 47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”

48 Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

50 Then He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”  Luke 7.  Who are you in this scene? The pharisee or the skank?

Your example supports what I am saying. Note how she was ready to repent and cast aside her life of sin. Personally, I'd still keep an eye on her. If she's going to church on Sunday and turning tricks on Monday, giver her the boot! Jesus said so!
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