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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« on: March 17, 2019, 12:59:27 PM »
There seems to be an alcohol fueled

I don't drink when I take Ecstasy. It tastes like shit.

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2019, 01:06:58 PM »
You'd do better to drink reputable firewater and eschew the street speed.  Free advice from one who learned the hard way.

Fuck man. Are you 90? You really think alcohol is better for you than E?

Drugs ain't good for you in a recreational way thats for sure but alcohol is the fuckin devil compared to MDMA.

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 01:21:54 PM »
Liver-wise, maybe so.

I can see you're not very well versed in the problems both physical and mental that alcohol causes never mind the social side.

If a new country were born with knowledge of the problems and illnesses that various drugs cause you can be damn sure that alcohol and nicotine would be banned instantly. I'm not sure what recreational drugs would be allowed but I can truthfully say I've never been aware of any problems with sensible MDMA use. Never seen a fight. Never seen anyone hurt.

Because of the society we live in the drug laws will never change. Alcohol will never be banned and nicotine use will remain legal if only in private.

It's wrong but so are a lot of other things.

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 01:43:02 PM »
Sorry if I inadvertently sandbagged you here in this thread.  Actually I'm extremely well versed in issues related to substance abuse (and particularly alcohol abuse) due to my own personal experience and with work I've done with others in the 35+ years I've been abstinent from that whole part of my life.

Then your previous statement was untrue?

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 01:49:48 PM »
Not at all.  Everything I've said in this thread is true.

So you say that alcohol is better for you than MDMA?

I'd love to see your facts and figures pertaining to that.

In my opinion (which is very rarely wrong) alcohol is an extremely dangerous drug for a large percentage of those that use it.

MDMA, not so.

Do you disagree? If so I'll have to make a thread to put up all the facts and figures.

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 02:28:45 PM »
No, you're putting words into my mouth.  I said that you (and you specifically) would be better advised to drink high quality alcohol than to do street speed.

You'd do better to drink reputable firewater and eschew the street speed.  Free advice from one who learned the hard way.

In a public forum advice of this nature would be considered as applying to whomever is reading it. Also the opinion is highly skewed as you state 'Street Speed' whatever the fuck that is. This sort of thing is why drug awareness campaigns never work. Those with an opinion haven't the slightest clue what they are talking about.

Just for future reference the Ecstasy I buy (In a group with a few dozen other people) is manufactured in Amsterdam by a Dutch chemist I met in Ibiza in 1985. It's made using a full pharmaceutical process with 'Clean Rooms' etc and is also tested on arrival. Never in 34 years has there been a bad batch but as I'm concerned with what I put into my system the quality control we do will continue.

I say again that proper use of MDMA causes no ill effects whatsoever compared to the 100% of alcohol users who have been affected in some way. Or are hangovers (alcohol poisoning) not to be included?

STREET SPEED .....................LOL

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 03:20:49 PM »
liver failure.

Where have you been told that liver failure is the only (and indeed major) cause of death or serious illness amongst those who abuse alcohol? The statement really misses the point.



If I go out in my community and survey every dealer offering E, how many of them will tell me this same tale of pharmacological reliability you're telling me?

And even if for the sake of argument I say that I believe you, and you're the one person out of forty who has a good connection for E, it's still my belief that you haven't qualified or quantified what "responsible" or "proper" means.. 

The answer lies in its illegality and the societal confines which encompass drug laws and availability.

If you could buy E from a chemist like you would buy Aspirin then the quality control issues vanish. I didn't start a conversation about tainted drugs nor how an unmonitored system could weigh the effects. I'm an idealist who lives in a very nearly ideal world and only speak of my experiences of how sensible use of various drugs can be pretty much harmless.

You may think this is a niche subject but if you consider the harm done and the costs of an unattainable victory in the war on drugs you may realise this is probably the biggest and least understood issue in the world today. It affects everything from the price of food in the shops to the financing and backing of terrorist forces.

Perhaps it wasn't really due a flippant 'Oh you should have this dangerous drug' post?

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 06:51:36 PM »
Ya’ll turned this into a damn junkie thread

Yup. Those damn drunky monkey's eh?

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Re: Guantlet Dropping Ackshun or... Gravity KillzZz
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 08:35:18 PM »
You'd do better to drink reputable firewater and eschew the street speed.


Nothing flippant about my part of it.

Flippant see.


HE STARTED IT, MOM 

Dint.

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