Trump lies about abortion exposed

[LotusBud]

Gullible CONs.  Sick fuck POTUS.

Donald Trump has falsely accused Virginia Governor Ralph Northam of supporting the killing of babies, a move labelled “dangerous and sickening” by Democrats.

It is the second time this year that Mr Trump has falsely claimed that Democrat Mr Northam backs mothers being given the choice to “execute” a baby. Abortion is one of the president’s key issues when it comes to his conservative base, with his administration pushing hard to enact legislation restricting abortion.

At a rally in Wisconsin, Mr Trump repeated the incendiary false claim that doctors and mothers were conferring on whether to keep babies alive after birth and then executing them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-apos-sickening-apos-143801413.html

[Biggie Smiles]

Lotus. We had this discussion already. And it was demonstrated clearly  that ending a life at the 40 week mark as this bill would allow is murder a.k.a killing. The act remains the same no matter the surrounding circumstances.

So Trump's usage of the word is appropriate.

Call it what you want if doing so happens to sooth your conscience. You can call it "mercy killing" "justifiable homicide" "self defense" or the "now you see me now you don't effect" but at the end of the day causing a baby who is 40 weeks old to discontinue breathing permanently is killing. No matter how many fancy adjectives you use to describe it

[LotusBud]

The controversy has centered on a provision concerning third-trimester abortions. Under current Virginia law, in order for a patient to terminate a pregnancy in the third trimester, three doctors must certify that continuing the pregnancy would likely cause the patient’s death or “substantially and irremediably impair” her mental or physical health. The new bill would reduce the number of doctors to one, and remove the “substantially and irremediably” qualifier — abortions would be allowed in cases where a mother’s mental or physical health is threatened, even if the damage might not be irreversible.

What it's seeking to do is remove the rightwing nutjob tyrants from that space between a pregnant woman and her doctor, and you snowflakes can't handle it.

[Captain Caveman]

You know that a snowflake is triggered when they start calling everyone around them a snowflake instead...

[Biggie Smiles]

What it's seeking to do is remove the rightwing nutjob tyrants from that space between a pregnant woman and her doctor,

And open the door for a headache to be used as a grounds to commit murder with no consequence

[Captain Caveman]

Lotusbug's mum should have aborted herself off a tall cliff...

[LotusBud]

And open the door for a headache to be used as a grounds to commit murder with no consequence

Yes.  I am certain there are many women who at 40 weeks will suddenly decide she's changed her mind AND will be able to find a doctor to help her out AND herself will be willing to go through the extreme trauma of a late-term abortion just because she changed her mind.

You're a fucking moron.  I had a friend whose baby died in utero and she had to go through childbirth with a dead baby.  That in itself was extremely traumatizing, and her baby had already passed.  You're deluding yourself if you think there are droves of women who are sociopathic enough to suddenly decide after nine months of being flooded by hormones and carrying a life, "Nah.  Let's just kill this baby."

[Biggie Smiles]

Yes.  I am certain there are many women who at 40 weeks will suddenly decide she's changed her mind AND will be able to find a doctor to help her out AND herself will be willing to go through the extreme trauma of a late-term abortion just because she changed her mind.

If you have just one due to the new found luxury of a consequence-less situation enabled by the passing of a faulty law it's too much 

[LotusBud]

If you have just one due to the new found luxury of a consequence-less situation enabled by the passing of a faulty law it's too much

And that one is a fair exchange for preventing the procedure for multiple women whose lives are found to be at risk?

[Captain Caveman]

Lotusbug is stuck on stupid...

[LotusBud]

It's interesting but unsurprising that neither one of you alt-right males have said anything about Trump's filthy lies.

[Captain Caveman]

No "Alt-Right" here, glue sniffer...

[Biggie Smiles]

And that one is a fair exchange for preventing the procedure for multiple women whose lives are found to be at risk?

Murder is murder. Calling it anything but what it is is just stupid.

I don't care who's lives are at risk to be Frank with you. If it were my own life on the line or any woman in my life I love dearly I'd be saying the same thing.  I'm not changing the definition of murder because some cunt suddenly has a headache the day of labor.

murder is murder. And one that takes place under circumstances of duress should be examined by a finder of fact like any other murder that is committed under any other circumstance. If the finder of fact determines this was a  similar situation to something like a self defense then the same provision that allows exoneration should apply. If the finder of fact determines there  was a frivolous excuse claimed so that the baby could be killed then 1st degree consequences should apply. Consequence Up to and including the death penalty for the mother are appropriate.

[Phester0boyle]

It's interesting but unsurprising that neither one of you alt-right males have said anything about Trump's filthy lies.

All pollute-icians lie.

[AMF]

What it's seeking to do is remove the rightwing nutjob tyrants from that space between a pregnant woman and her doctor, and you snowflakes can't handle it.

+1
You're beating a dead horse though, because these 2 or 3 rightwing nutjob tyrants really think they have some kind of standing to judge what is still under Roe v. Wade a private medical matter between a woman and a doctor.

[Oliver Clotheshoffe]

I think abortion is great because it's mostly LIBERAL women who get them and the fewer LIBERALS around the better.

[Oak]

I think abortion is great because it's mostly LIBERAL women who get them and the fewer LIBERALS around the better.

As an incel, I bet you 'd love to have the problem of a pregnant gf.

[Captain Caveman]

Killing a fully developed baby is murder no matter how you'd like to spin it otherwise...

[Oak]

Killing a fully developed baby is murder no matter how you'd like to spin it otherwise...

Prove that doctors are doing so.

[Captain Caveman]

Prove that doctors are doing so.

Prove that some, particularly in the abortion sector, won't when these newer legislations allow for it.