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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2019, 01:50:12 AM »

Don't fret


Usually, the best comes with the 2nd term


And a couple more supreme court judges.  :bounce2:

There still won't be a wall.  He doesn't care about a wall, he just sticks his dick in your collectives asses.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2019, 01:51:21 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-showcases-new-wall

Boom!   :biggrin:

The border needs about 1400 miles of wall.

Might as well be no wall when all they've managed in 3 years is 60.

BOOM!
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2019, 07:27:41 PM »
They've only just begun...

Boom! Boom!

Well, just how many terms will he need at the rate of 20 miles per year?
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2019, 07:30:11 PM »
open borders is for fucking retards with the he IQ of a garden slug

Not supporting a stupid wall and supporting Open Borders are two very different things.

We need a comprehensive solution to illegal immigration.  Not just an expensive stupid wall that won't work.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 07:38:08 PM »
Outline your "comprehensive solution" and we'll discuss it

1.  I think we need to give tax breaks to coroporations that are willing to take manufacturing or assembly to the Northern Triangle (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador).  Along with ceasing to support oligarchs and the military from running those countries...we've always supported the forces that murder their own people.

2.  We need a lot more electronic surveillance at the border

3.  Flesh out the corrupt Border Patrol agents, most drugs come through at ports of entry - that would mean the DEA should work for Americans and not the drug cartels

4. Shore up immigration courts - we need thousands of more judges so that we can hold hearings at a faster rate. The courts have about 500K cases in backlog.  People should be fined, deported, etc as the courts determine.

5.  Give a path to citizenship to dreamers, they were raised here and move on.

I'm sure I haven't thought of everything, but for fucks sakes, at least I'm not a moron screaming about a Wall everyone knows will never be built.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2019, 07:43:47 PM »
:happy117:
He told his disciples he could have 5 terms.  20 years x 20 miles = 400 miles of WALL!

I feel safer already.  I hope Mexico has room on their credit card.

He begged Peña-Nieto to agree to say that Mexico would pay for the Wall with a wink and a nod.    :crampe:

That's political suicide for any Mexican president, so he said no.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 08:26:28 PM »
1.  I think we need to give tax breaks to coroporations that are willing to take manufacturing or assembly to the Northern Triangle (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador).  Along with ceasing to support oligarchs and the military from running those countries...we've always supported the forces that murder their own people.  Agreed.

2.  We need a lot more electronic surveillance at the border. Very good option to augment the effectiveness of a wall

3.  Flesh out the corrupt Border Patrol agents, most drugs come through at ports of entry - that would mean the DEA should work for Americans and not the drug cartels. Agreed.

4. Shore up immigration courts - we need thousands of more judges so that we can hold hearings at a faster rate. The courts have about 500K cases in backlog.  People should be fined, deported, etc as the courts determine. YOu realize that if we allocate a mere 175,000.00 to judges salary and hire just 3000 new judges we're already at 525,000,000.00 per year. Not counting the cost of the attorneys we'll have to provide them and detention costs. We're easily looking at over a billion a year just to determine that people who should not be here are deported. Remember what they say about an ounce of prevention?

5.  Give a path to citizenship to dreamers, they were raised here and move on. I agree here completely. Someone who has been here since childhood that can demonstrate they are productive citizens or can demonstrate they are on a path to becoming productive citizens should not be deported. I disagree with Trump on this one vigorously. That's foul and cruel.

I'm sure I haven't thought of everything, but for fucks sakes, at least I'm not a moron screaming about a Wall everyone knows will never be built.

We've just proven that reasonable open-minded individuals can reach common ground.  That's what this country was founded on - compromise.  Then we continue to work to make it a "more perfect union".

The idea that only one side gets their wishes is ridiculous on its face.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2019, 08:55:21 PM »
Fuck that!  Kick them all out except the ones that mow my lawn and might happen to be related to me.  The rest?  I want them gone!

Go change your Depends, I think your diaper's wet.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 09:35:00 PM »
He'd have it done if dems didnt obstruct. Thats why its important for no lib to be elected.

He had house, the Senate and the Presidency early in his term.  He didn't get it done.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2019, 09:46:38 PM »
Come on you saw what he was up against.  Every other day it was something with Pelosi.  :Doh2:

Same thing Obama went through, only it was the Depends diaper party he had screaming constantly.  Deficits! We can't afford them....Now, deficits don't matter.   

And Pelosi was the minority whip, get real.

LOL, what a joke.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2019, 09:48:01 PM »
Yes and no. Trump didnt control congress. Many either believed the collusion bullshit and were not sticking their necks out cause they thought he'd be gone or were outright butthurt obstructionists like Juan McStain and Jeff the Flake.

Trump was willing, the RINO's werent.

He's not a conservative.  There's a reason traditional Republicans didn't or don't support him.  He's a con artist.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2019, 09:55:11 PM »
Lol deficits

I can’t comment on Obama.  I’m sorry I thought he was awful. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.  The mic drop did me in.

I don't hold the belief that Obama should be admired or respected by everyone.  You just will never convince me that Orange Julius is any better.

Never.  He's an embarassment to this nation, a con man, and a pig.  He absolutely disgusts me.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2019, 10:01:22 PM »
The particular Rebublicans who didnt support him were always headed by RINO's.

No, they understand that this country was founded on compromise.   That's what the founders did, compromise.

You modern extremists don't love the country as it was founded, you want to make it a Christian theocracy or the other extreme, a socialist "paradise" soon to be followed by mass poverty

Fucking loons!
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2019, 10:01:59 PM »
If I could, the only thing I'd change about Trump is his promiscuity and his support for gays. You'd like that MUCH less.

I don't care what you like about him.

He's a fucking pig.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2019, 10:13:05 PM »
No, they were all notorious RINO's. They were opposed by all the other Republicans constantly. The founders didnt compromise on the idea that government would  be bent on taking the peoples rights, including the right to bear arms. They only compromised oh how best to chain government down best. Libs see unobstructed gubmint as an original sin.

I've posted dozens of quotes that prove ALL the founders believed morality came from God. They would have executed faggits and open open satanists in the streets. Ben Frankin wrote all about the Christian morality of the American People and published it for those who would come to America.

You're unhinged, that's the only thing you've proven in all your years on forums.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2019, 11:40:53 PM »
I've known lokmar for years and not once I've seen him defending the murder of children in the womb


Yeah, it's so much better to murder 8. 9. 10 year olds...

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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2019, 12:06:50 AM »
Not this shit again.

He’s definitely for killing everyone after the birth.

They don't give two shits about kids once they're outside the womb.

Even those pro-birth Christian pregnancy centers will help a mom until her baby is 6 months old.   What's she supposed to do for the next 17 1/2 years if they haven't helped her find a way to be able to afford to have this child?

They'll end up on social services.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2019, 06:53:14 PM »
Christian outreach organizations have done way more good for the poor and indigent  than any other organization. If I'm wrong, you should be able to name another that's done more and is continuing to do more.

The US taxpayer.

You're welcome.  We support the poor and indigent. 
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2019, 06:55:41 PM »
1. Enforce CURRENT US labor laws.
2. Bust illegals working without a green card, and deport
3 Bust those who employ the above, with removal of licensing to operate a legit business.


If these laws were enforced as they were written, there is no need for a wall. Such an easy thing to do, and way cheaper than a wall 2400 miles long, that can and will be breached. Trumps wall will never be completed. The litigation alone will take decades.


I knew I was forgetting something.   We need to bust the fuck out of these abusive employers and throw somene in jail in addition to fines.
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Re: Where's the Wall?
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2019, 06:56:48 PM »
It aint murder if the government drone strikes em.

Yes, it actually is...
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