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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2019, 10:03:40 AM »
If you accept homosexuality, you may as well be performing abortions cause you'll wind up in the same place as those who do it. Christ Himself said if you accept faggits and other sexual perverts in the church, He will cut that church off, period. Rev 2. Supposedly accepting Christ will do nothing for those who continue to practice sexual degeneration. It would be better for those people to have not been saved at all.

 Where did i say we should accept sin?

 I mean if you wanna go under Gods law by all means.....youll perish by the same standards.


 I have posted the SAME several verses on this exact issue to you with the sound appropriate exegesis.

 Where did Christ tell us to "go forth and rain Gods wrath upon every nation"?

 Because thats not in any translation i have, and i have the hebrew/Kione Greek ones.

 I tell you this out of love, Lok.

 Do you watch porn?

 If you truly know God, you should be terrified at the thought of speaking false witness against HIM.

7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor [c]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [d]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

 1 Cor. 6

 You deserve every bit the SAME hell.  Should we kill you for the sins you commit, Lok? Honest question.

 Lets go through every Levitical law and see how many times today both of us should have been stoned and sent to Sheol.  :popcorn:

 I can tell you i have broken EVERY SINGLE COMMAND.

 Murder, check

 Idol worship, Check

 Lord name in vain....check

 Lies, check

 Adultry....Cheeeeeck...

 Every single one. The law is there, to show you how hopeless you are.  The ones who with hold mercy will not be shown mercy.  Its not up to YOU to decide who we execute. You really want to make Gods standards of sexual morality a law in this country?  Think about that.

 Ready to die?

 1 Corinthians 15:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2019, 10:47:09 AM »
Welcome to the Flower Tower for Reverend Dove's Hour of Power.

Please be seated.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2019, 12:12:33 PM »
Where did i say we should accept sin?

 I mean if you wanna go under Gods law by all means.....youll perish by the same standards.


 I have posted the SAME several verses on this exact issue to you with the sound appropriate exegesis.

 Where did Christ tell us to "go forth and rain Gods wrath upon every nation"?

 Because thats not in any translation i have, and i have the hebrew/Kione Greek ones.

 I tell you this out of love, Lok.

 Do you watch porn?

 If you truly know God, you should be terrified at the thought of speaking false witness against HIM.

7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor [c]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [d]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

 1 Cor. 6

 You deserve every bit the SAME hell.  Should we kill you for the sins you commit, Lok? Honest question.

 Lets go through every Levitical law and see how many times today both of us should have been stoned and sent to Sheol.  :popcorn:

 I can tell you i have broken EVERY SINGLE COMMAND.

 Murder, check

 Idol worship, Check

 Lord name in vain....check

 Lies, check

 Adultry....Cheeeeeck...

 Every single one. The law is there, to show you how hopeless you are.  The ones who with hold mercy will not be shown mercy.  Its not up to YOU to decide who we execute. You really want to make Gods standards of sexual morality a law in this country?  Think about that.

 Ready to die?

 1 Corinthians 15:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

I can quote several places where Christ and the Apostles tell us to throw people out of the church and to turn our backs on them. Anyone who's read the New Testament should be able to. The Law aint exactly dead. See the Council of Jerusalem for proof. Further, The Law of Noah is universal and for all time. Christ hasnt done away with any of that. Its absurd for anyone to thread the needle and rationalize that you can be saved by Christ and habitually break Noahide Law.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2019, 12:26:51 PM »
I can quote several places where Christ and the Apostles tell us to throw people out of the church and to turn our backs on them. Anyone who's read the New Testament should be able to. The Law aint exactly dead. See the Council of Jerusalem for proof. Further, The Law of Noah is universal and for all time. Christ hasnt done away with any of that. Its absurd for anyone to thread the needle and rationalize that you can be saved by Christ and habitually break Noahide Law.

 Throwing an unrepentant sinner out of the church is NOT the same as execution or going under the law.

 You are a theonomist.

 The NC is bigger than national politics.  Our battle isnt with flesh and blood.

 We are actually winning over the culture of death. We are poking the enemies baby, and it's getting VERY real in the battlefield.

 So again, I hope and pray your put your faith in Him and Him alone because its gonna get a whole heck of alot worse before it gets better.

 I never said the law is dead. The law is active. We just are not under it. Dont be putting new wine in old wine skins.  You are either under Christ, or you are damned by every jot and tittle of the law.  I never said once that Yeshua abolished the law. But He did fulfill it. He fulfilled it, and took YOUR punishment in exchange for HIS righteouness. Because no one can live up the requirements of Gods law. No one. Not you, not me, no one.

 The time will come when sin and death is abolished.  This right now is a rescue mission. The building is on fire and we are to call out those trapped inside. Some will follow, some will not.

 But we have no business exacting wrath on sinners when we are just as deserving as them.  What if you executed one of Gods children? Do you want to tell God "well you didnt redeem this person when I wanted you too so I slaughtered them for ya"? 

 Careful how you speak of Him. We are accountable for that.  Go and love your neighbor as yourself and humble yourself. Speak the truth in love with intent of bringing hope to the broken. 

 Your flesh wants to be some hero as if all power doesnt belong to Christ.  Noah was a foretelling.  Christ is the Ark.

 You already broke the law. You cannot unbreak what you broke.  You better be able to do the time if it's the law you wanna be under.  You are every bit dependent on Christ as anyone else....you arent going to do a thing that pleases God without Him.  If you go about executing people for sinning you will bring wrath against yourself.

 I pray for you, Lok. If you are relying on yourself, I weep for you.

 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 1 John 1.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 4.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2019, 01:01:29 PM »
I have never seen so much Bible thumping on a troll board.

Dovey, you are shitting up this place something awful.

Why don't you just take over the place, and you can preach to the choir.  You're not convincing anyone who doesn't already believe this utter bullshit.  You can't even laugh at the stupidity of the OP.  You've got to get out your soap box and start preaching.  You even turn a joke thread about Toy Story into an anti-abortion screed.

What horseshit.

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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2019, 01:04:14 PM »
 Hey Lotus, glad you here.

 Take a look at this video in this link, a video posted by NURSES and MIDWIVES for life.

 I asked my two year old what this was. She said "it's a babeee". She is apparently smarter than you.

 https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/14/amazing-video-shows-unborn-baby-in-first-trimester-moving-her-arms-and-legs/

 So what warped psuedoscience of yours tells you this is NOT a living human being?  Provide the citation. I would love to see what science says this is.

 Here your chance to prove me wrong.  :popcorn:

 I got another verse for this.

 "Those who hate Me, love death".  Sounds right.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2019, 01:09:06 PM »
No, thanks, Shovey.  I don't need you shoving this shit down my throat.  If you think I haven't heard and seen all of this before, you're not too bright (but I already knew that).  This is classic low-IQ, low mental health, Bible-thumping BS. 

You should really get therapy.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2019, 01:11:15 PM »
 I also find it interesting to note that I dont whine and piss and moan when you are posting your political filth all over the place.

 And I'm sure a handful here would feel that stinks up the place pretty good. You still have the freedom to post it, and others have the choice to read it.

 Quit ur belly aching over what other people post.  We put up with YOU.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2019, 01:12:51 PM »
No, thanks, Shovey.  I don't need you shoving this shit down my throat.  If you think I haven't heard and seen all of this before, you're not too bright (but I already knew that).  This is classic low-IQ, low mental health, Bible-thumping BS. 

You should really get therapy.

 So again, you are COWARD who cannot deal with facts and has to resort to other things.

 Noted.
 
 Cowardly prophet of the culture of death.

 Cant back your claims for crap.  :popcorn:

 You dont like the content of my posts, you complain about it over and over and yet you continue to read it and respond.  :crazy:

 If I'm so nuts ignore me. IF you can
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2019, 01:14:54 PM »
So again, you are COWARD who cannot deal with facts and has to resort to other things.

 Noted.
 
 Cowardly prophet of the culture of death.

 Cant back your claims for crap.  :popcorn:

I have yet to see you post a fact.  It's all your fevered hysteria.  You would have been one of the women in court hysterically accusing an innocent young woman of witch craft at Salem and then gleefully watching her dorwn.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2019, 01:17:20 PM »
I have yet to see you post a fact. 

 Well that's impressive considering I posted several properly cited primary sources.

 I guess you doing that "alternative fact" thing, eh?   :biglaugha:
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2019, 02:36:38 PM »
Throwing an unrepentant sinner out of the church is NOT the same as execution or going under the law.

 You are a theonomist.

 The NC is bigger than national politics.  Our battle isnt with flesh and blood.

 We are actually winning over the culture of death. We are poking the enemies baby, and it's getting VERY real in the battlefield.

 So again, I hope and pray your put your faith in Him and Him alone because its gonna get a whole heck of alot worse before it gets better.

 I never said the law is dead. The law is active. We just are not under it. Dont be putting new wine in old wine skins.  You are either under Christ, or you are damned by every jot and tittle of the law.  I never said once that Yeshua abolished the law. But He did fulfill it. He fulfilled it, and took YOUR punishment in exchange for HIS righteouness. Because no one can live up the requirements of Gods law. No one. Not you, not me, no one.

 The time will come when sin and death is abolished.  This right now is a rescue mission. The building is on fire and we are to call out those trapped inside. Some will follow, some will not.

 But we have no business exacting wrath on sinners when we are just as deserving as them.  What if you executed one of Gods children? Do you want to tell God "well you didnt redeem this person when I wanted you too so I slaughtered them for ya"? 

 Careful how you speak of Him. We are accountable for that.  Go and love your neighbor as yourself and humble yourself. Speak the truth in love with intent of bringing hope to the broken. 

 Your flesh wants to be some hero as if all power doesnt belong to Christ.  Noah was a foretelling.  Christ is the Ark.

 You already broke the law. You cannot unbreak what you broke.  You better be able to do the time if it's the law you wanna be under.  You are every bit dependent on Christ as anyone else....you arent going to do a thing that pleases God without Him.  If you go about executing people for sinning you will bring wrath against yourself.

 I pray for you, Lok. If you are relying on yourself, I weep for you.

 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 1 John 1.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 4.

You are quite wrong. Just like the libs do with abortion, you chose to drag this off into the weeds, this time with "repentance". As far as those who have repented, I havent said a damned thing about anyone who repents.

 If your church, and there are MANY "christian" churches that do, accepts practicing homos in it, it would be better for all of humanity if that church was burned to the ground. I also totally support those who shoot and kill an abortion doctor who comes to church regularly. Too bad that guy didnt burn his church down as well.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2019, 02:39:30 PM »
 Lok I am not saying we should accept sin and open unrepentant sinning.

 I am saying it is not biblical for you to lobby for the execution of certain sinners.

 Period.

 I have no clue how you are reading that I am saying we should accept sin when I've been very specific. Are you reading what I'm saying?
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2019, 02:39:42 PM »
Oh yea, and god already spoke about accidentally executing an innocent. He said He would sort it out. I'll have to look it up in the OT.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2019, 02:40:52 PM »
 Well let me know when you actually read my post instead of skimming it.

 K?
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2019, 02:43:29 PM »
Lok I am not saying we should accept sin and open unrepentant sinning.

 I am saying it is not biblical for you to lobby for the execution of certain sinners.

 Period.

 I have no clue how you are reading that I am saying we should accept sin when I've been very specific. Are you reading what I'm saying?

It is absolutely OK for me to lobby for the execution of those people who have broken laws which require capital punishment. An openly faggit couple is no different than a murderer or kidnapper.

I get it, many people in todays society have faggit friends. You shouldnt. One thing or another WILL happen. Either you will convict that person of their evil or they will soften your views on their evil. In todays society, we know which will happen. Tolerance is an evil filth and should be eradicated.

For some reason, it seems that women are more prone to tolerate faggits. Its sickening.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2019, 02:45:23 PM »
Well let me know when you actually read my post instead of skimming it.

 K?

If you had accepted the reality that I was talking about openly gay and unrepentant people ITFP, you wouldn't have posted anything about mistakenly executing one of God's chosen. Why is it that everyone has to go running for the door of "what if"? no matter the subject.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2019, 02:49:06 PM »
It is absolutely OK for me to lobby for the execution of those people who have broken laws which require capital punishment. An openly faggit couple is no different than a murderer or kidnapper.

I get it, many people in todays society have faggit friends. You shouldnt. One thing or another WILL happen. Either you will convict that person of their evil or they will soften your views on their evil. In todays society, we know which will happen. Tolerance is an evil filth and should be eradicated.

For some reason, it seems that women are more prone to tolerate faggits. Its sickening.

I can link to a site that will help you locate a therapist in your area.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2019, 02:50:33 PM »
If you had accepted the reality that I was talking about openly gay and unrepentant people ITFP, you wouldn't have posted anything about mistakenly executing one of God's chosen. Why is it that everyone has to go running for the door of "what if"? no matter the subject.

 I clearly said it is not biblical to run around executing sinners. Unrepentant or not.

 Apparently I went too deep and confused you, even though I made very clear distinctions.
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Re: Ok seriously now WTF?
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2019, 03:44:07 PM »
Lok I am not saying we should accept sin and open unrepentant sinning.

 I am saying it is not biblical for you to lobby for the execution of certain sinners.

 Period.

But there are republican politicians who have tried to pass laws that allow the execution of abortion doctors.

Isn't voting republican supporting them indirectly?

What would God say about that?
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