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Offline No Okie

Central America, immigration and the wall.
« on: June 09, 2019, 11:42:22 AM »
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This subject is all over the place. It’s ugly, misunderstood, and deadly. After living in this part of the world for the last 18 years, I can see the whys and why nots related to this subject. Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama, is Central America. The US does it’s best to prop up C.R. and Panama. C. R. has its tourism. Panama has the canal. Nicaragua seems to be on its own. Danial Ortega is a dictator, but seems to keep the country together, although it’s a poor country. The other 3 are beyond poor. Poverty breeds corruption. What has happened is that while these countries seem to have governments, they are controlled mostly by thugs. Directly and indirectly. Naturally the main culprit is the drugs that are bound to the first worlds of N.America and Europe. The amounts and the money it brings is staggering. Within these small poor countries there is only one given. Play ball or die. This always include any family member, and it’s a daily occurrence. Many feel that there are zero chances of anything changing. So what’s left? Flee the situation as many do.
     They end up at the US border. This is what desperate poor people do. What would anyone do to save what little they have, like family members? Of course most Mericans choose to ignore this messy situation. Way easier to simply blame the other guy. The Dems blame the Republicans. The Pres blames the Dems. The Pres has no leadership skills that might unite both sides. Part of the entire shit show.
     Is it insane for me to believe that NATO should intervene within these 3 countries? Isn’t NATO a private entity, funded by different countries? NATO was effective in the conflict in Yugoslavia, Palestine, in other Middle East countries? What else is left? Why couldn’t NATO step in? Start working with these governments. Arrest and try and imprison the thugs. Make it safe for any would be illegal immigrant who would much more remain in their countries and no go through the hardships for going north. The wall is an idiotic knee jerk reaction. Really makes me sad to see a Honduran pregnant woman, with a 5 year old in tow, who’s husband was murdered 3 weeks ago by thugs. Could NATO be the answer? Something needs to change. Hope this thread can remain neutral.

Offline No Okie

Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2019, 11:44:46 AM »
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Could you live like this?

Offline No Okie

Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2019, 11:53:49 AM »
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Or this

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2019, 11:58:31 AM »
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These fuckers would be happy to murder anyone in your family. Arrest them where they come from.

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2019, 04:12:13 PM »
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 ... They end up at the US border. This is what desperate poor people do. What would anyone do to save what little they have, like family members? Of course most Mericans choose to ignore this messy situation. Way easier to simply blame the other guy. The Dems blame the Republicans. The Pres blames the Dems. The Pres has no leadership skills that might unite both sides. Part of the entire shit show.


Why do you seem to think it the American taxpayer's responsibility and obligation to take care of these inferior third worlders?  As our great President has said, some countries are shithole countries.  Shit hole countries don't become shithole countries all by themselves.  They are made shithole countries by the shithole people that live in them.


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Hope this thread can remain neutral.

Sorry.  Anyone who uses the term "Mericans" to refer to me and millions of my fellow Americans like me is a leftist, America-hating, racist white person hating piece of filth as far as I'm concerned.

The reason we voated for Trump is because he promised to slam shut the southern border.  He's trying to do it, but the leftist enemies of liberty obstruct him at every turn.

As far as I'm concerned, we don't just need a wall, we need active machine gun nests every 100 yards or so to mow down these parasite third worlder inferiors before they even get close to our shiny new wall.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2019, 04:18:43 PM »
Why do you seem to think it the American taxpayer's responsibility and obligation to take care of these inferior third worlders?  As our great President has said, some countries are shithole countries.  Shit hole countries don't become shithole countries all by themselves.  They are made shithole countries by the shithole people that live in them.


Sorry.  Anyone who uses the term "Mericans" to refer to me and millions of my fellow Americans like me is a leftist, America-hating, racist white person hating piece of filth as far as I'm concerned.

The reason we voated for Trump is because he promised to slam shut the southern border.  He's trying to do it, but the leftist enemies of liberty obstruct him at every turn.

As far as I'm concerned, we don't just need a wall, we need active machine gun nests every 100 yards or so to mow down these parasite third worlder inferiors before they even get close to our shiny new wall.

100 years of American intervention has helped, a great deal, to make them shitholes.


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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2019, 04:20:11 PM »
What the wall would look like if the democrats ever began thinking these illegals would begin voting republican


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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2019, 04:22:53 PM »
What the wall would look like if the democrats ever began thinking these illegals would begin voting republican



Illegals don't vote and Trump's task force fell apart because they couldn't prove it.  Another GOP trope because 90% of Republicans are white.

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2019, 04:23:41 PM »
 I read that alot of them actually do vote red. I'm not sure the stats, I'd have to look. Probably is hard to really get a look at.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2019, 04:26:47 PM »
I read that alot of them actually do vote red. I'm not sure the stats, I'd have to look. Probably is hard to really get a look at.

Please don't conflate "illegal" with Hispanic or Latino.

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2019, 04:29:41 PM »
Please don't conflate "illegal" with Hispanic or Latino.

 I dont. Anyone who is in the country illegally is an illegal immigrant. They dont have to be Hispanic.

 It's a problem regardless of race. We do have alot of drug and human trafficking at the southern border. That's just facts.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2019, 04:32:36 PM »
I dont. Anyone who is in the country illegally is an illegal immigrant. They dont have to be Hispanic.

 It's a problem regardless of race. We do have alot of drug and human trafficking at the southern border. That's just facts.

I didn't say anything of the sort.  We were talking about voting if you look back a post or two.

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2019, 04:36:40 PM »
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This subject is all over the place. It’s ugly, misunderstood, and deadly. After living in this part of the world for the last 18 years, I can see the whys and why nots related to this subject. Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama, is Central America. The US does it’s best to prop up C.R. and Panama. C. R. has its tourism. Panama has the canal. Nicaragua seems to be on its own. Danial Ortega is a dictator, but seems to keep the country together, although it’s a poor country. The other 3 are beyond poor. Poverty breeds corruption. What has happened is that while these countries seem to have governments, they are controlled mostly by thugs. Directly and indirectly. Naturally the main culprit is the drugs that are bound to the first worlds of N.America and Europe. The amounts and the money it brings is staggering. Within these small poor countries there is only one given. Play ball or die. This always include any family member, and it’s a daily occurrence. Many feel that there are zero chances of anything changing. So what’s left? Flee the situation as many do.
     They end up at the US border. This is what desperate poor people do. What would anyone do to save what little they have, like family members? Of course most Mericans choose to ignore this messy situation. Way easier to simply blame the other guy. The Dems blame the Republicans. The Pres blames the Dems. The Pres has no leadership skills that might unite both sides. Part of the entire shit show.
     Is it insane for me to believe that NATO should intervene within these 3 countries? Isn’t NATO a private entity, funded by different countries? NATO was effective in the conflict in Yugoslavia, Palestine, in other Middle East countries? What else is left? Why couldn’t NATO step in? Start working with these governments. Arrest and try and imprison the thugs. Make it safe for any would be illegal immigrant who would much more remain in their countries and no go through the hardships for going north. The wall is an idiotic knee jerk reaction. Really makes me sad to see a Honduran pregnant woman, with a 5 year old in tow, who’s husband was murdered 3 weeks ago by thugs. Could NATO be the answer? Something needs to change. Hope this thread can remain neutral.
There are plenty of areas in our own country that can use assistance before our hearts begin to bleed for these people

Take for instance Baltimore.



Or Detroit



How about New York



How about California




All of these areas are under democratically controlled leadership. Clearly demonstrating that they cannot clean up their own backyards let alone dictate how the remainder of the country should operate. If Nancy Pelosi's district were a pristine example of what a civilized society with heartwarming values looks like, I'd be right behind whatever she's saying. It's not. therefore she's full of shit

As a sovereign nation THIS is where we must begin before allowing these fleeing refugees asylum in our country

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2019, 04:39:25 PM »
There are plenty of areas in our own country that can use assistance before our hearts begin to bleed for these people

Take for instance Baltimore.



Or Detroit



How about New York



How about California




All of these areas are under democratically controlled leadership. Clearly demonstrating that they cannot clean up their own backyards let alone dictate how the remainder of the country should operate. If Nancy Pelosi's district were a pristine example of what a civilized society with heartwarming values looks like, I'd be right behind whatever she's saying. It's not. therefore she's full of shit

As a sovereign nation THIS is where we must begin before allowing these fleeing refugees asylum in our country

How about the places in the country that rank at the bottom in education, health statistics, and economic well being?

West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, and so on and so forth

Entire states,  RED, not just communities that are economic nightmares.

FACT

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2019, 04:40:09 PM »
 I can hop in my car, drive to Boogie Town and take pictures that would break your hearts.
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