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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2019, 04:43:36 PM »
How about the places in the country that rank at the bottom in education, health statistics, and economic well being?

West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, and so on and so forth

Entire states,  RED, not just communities that are economic nightmares.

FACT
Agreed. All of these need to be addressed before any additional immigrants are allowed residency here

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2019, 05:01:54 PM »
Agreed. All of these need to be addressed before any additional immigrants are allowed residency here

But we don't address those things either.

I'm not saying Central Americans are a priority.  I'm saying Trump's strategy to divide America and talking about closing the border drew peope in before they "lose" their chance.

We need a "Marshall" type plan for Central America, ultimately cheaper than dealing with illegal immigration.

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2019, 09:02:55 PM »
100 years of American intervention has helped, a great deal, to make them shitholes.

Pfffft!   Countries are like neighborhoods, they are a reflection of the people who love in them.  Shithole neighborhoods are shithole neighborhoods because they are filled with shithole people.  Same thing with entire countries.  One need only look at failed states like Haiti, Zimbabwe, Nicaraugua, El Salvador, etc, etc ...

The condition of Haiti today isn't because of something the French did when they ran the place.  The condition of Zimbabwe today isn't because of something the "whites" did when they ran the place and Rhodesia had the highest GDP in all of Africa.  And while I might agree that the Spanish and Portuguese who ran all of the failed states to our south were inept and stupid, the condition of those countries today have nothing to do with anything the Spanish or Portuguese did when they ran the places, nor with anything the United States has done since the US effectively kicked Spain and Portugal out of the Western Hemisphere.

Shitholes are made by the shitholes who live there.

 ... Do we want these shitholes coming here?
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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2019, 09:04:51 PM »
Illegals don't vote ...

Come visit me in Aurora, Illinois next election day, Oakie.  I'lll SHOW you illegal alien criminals voating in their tens of thousands.
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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2019, 09:06:16 PM »
Pfffft!   Countries are like neighborhoods, they are a reflection of the people who love in them.  Shithole neighborhoods are shithole neighborhoods because they are filled with shithole people.  Same thing with entire countries.  One need only look at failed states like Haiti, Zimbabwe, Nicaraugua, El Salvador, etc, etc ...

The condition of Haiti today isn't because of something the French did when they ran the place.  The condition of Zimbabwe today isn't because of something the "whites" did when they ran the place and Rhodesia had the highest GDP in all of Africa.  And while I might agree that the Spanish and Portuguese who ran all of the failed states to our south were inept and stupid, the condition of those countries today have nothing to do with anything the Spanish or Portuguese did when they ran the places, nor with anything the United States has done since the US effectively kicked Spain and Portugal out of the Western Hemisphere.

Shitholes are made by the shitholes who live there.

 ... Do we want these shitholes coming here?

Brushstroke analysis.  My fav!

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2019, 09:06:37 PM »
Come visit me in Aurora, Illinois next election day, Oakie.  I'lll SHOW you illegal alien criminals voating in their tens of thousands.

How do you know for a fact that they're illegal aliens?

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2019, 09:07:34 PM »
We need a "Marshall" type plan for Central America, ultimately cheaper than dealing with illegal immigration.

 ... so you think the American taxpayer has to pay for the failures of the nations to our south?

Fuck that!  I don't owe those shithole people anything!
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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2019, 09:09:36 PM »
Brushstroke analysis.  My fav!

My brush strokes are each and every one of them works of art in themselves.  Nothing I asserted in that post can be refuted, can it.
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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2019, 09:10:28 PM »
How do you know for a fact that they're illegal aliens?

Because I KNOW many of them.  Some of them are my inlaws, sweetheart.
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2019, 09:12:59 PM »
My brush strokes are each and every one of them works of art in themselves.  Nothing I asserted in that post can be refuted, can it.

Certainly, with a well written and thorough response that takes actual history into account. 

But, I'm not going to spend my time on a troll forum discussing the impacts of colonialism with those with closed minds.
It's a waste of my time. 

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2019, 09:13:55 PM »
Because I KNOW many of them.  Some of them are my inlaws, sweetheart.

Your in-laws have never naturalized and they vote?  Nice group of people.

And besides your in-laws how many do you know?

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2019, 09:21:39 PM »
Certainly, with a well written and thorough response that takes actual history into account. 

But, I'm not going to spend my time on a troll forum discussing the impacts of colonialism with those with closed minds.
It's a waste of my time.

Surrender accepted.  Nothing in my post was historically inaccurate and I would easily shred your Zinnian "impacts of colonialism" argument in a matter of a few hundred well-chosen words.

Your in-laws have never naturalized and they vote?  Nice group of people.


That's Mexicans for you! :drink:
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2019, 09:57:12 PM »
Surrender accepted.  Nothing in my post was historically inaccurate and I would easily shred your Zinnian "impacts of colonialism" argument in a matter of a few hundred well-chosen words.

That's Mexicans for you! :drink:

No surrender to you broadstroke analysis.  Claiming victory is fanciful on a troll board.

As for your perception of "Mexicans" you're speaking anecdotally.   I don't consider that real or hard evidence.  Orange Dummy's illegal voting task force when to the shitter.

Why was that?

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Re: Central America, immigration and the wall.
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2019, 11:11:05 PM »
Orange Dummy's illegal voting task force when to the shitter.

Why was that?

You  fail to grasp why they call it the "Deep" State.
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2019, 11:35:04 PM »
You  fail to grasp why they call it the "Deep" State.

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